Have for a long time. When I was young I would take off till late evening, and it was ok. Today is the day.. To get that, he said one of two things happens: 1.) The police chief says he is 99% sure that the main suspect, who is named, committed the crimes. We doubt if she did contact his wife. Brad Holder: Brads son, Jason, was Abbys boyfriend. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have determined the main suspects in the case, have a good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like, and have recently figured out the motive. Long, 22 pages. The February 2017 killings of teens Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14, in Delphi has drawn international attention. I just got banned from Twitter again for no real good reason, so Im not feeling that great. Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Indiana Cold Cases is similar and so is True Crime Jesus. What would be Mr X reason for leaving them there? He saved society a lot of money by eating a bullet, freeing up some fresh air and making the world the tiniest bit of a better place. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. There are many cases of homicides or attempted homicides in the same category. Similar murder conditions. Of course Ron Logan didnt do it. It was posted to Facebook by Allen's wife Kathy, 50, in 2018 - just over a year after the girls disappeared in February 2017, although it's unclear when the photo was taken. Libby's father, Derrick, makes them pancakes for breakfast. Theres no woman among them. Thats why all the smoke and mirrors. CM: Not even going to bother to reveal his name. Cop: Come on, man, we know you did it. There is 0% chance they have anything anyways. Delphi Murders Update April 13, 2021: Stunning Rumors about the Murders and Related Matters Now Officially Proven! Investigators released a still image from the video and a chilling audio of the man telling the two girls: Go down the hill.. The arrest of Allen could be the end of a years-long investigation during which numerous possible leads have led nowhere, and police have remained tight-lipped about details of the case. Kline - who is heavy-set and pasty-faced - used an image of a ripped and muscular young man to trick underage girls into speaking to him. For five years, the murders of 13-year-old Abby Williams and 14-year-old Libby German have hung over Delphi, ghosts that couldn't be put to rest. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. It is interesting that they are looking for precisely 43 seconds of audio. I have not been able to determine that from all of these postings. Thank you so much for this excellent comment, Jennifer! He is wearing a deer kit, which contains five different types of knives. There is a suspected child killer in the Bay Area who is responsible for 5-10 child murders. Wheres the rest of it? Alan, a 50-year-old married father of two children and a CVS technician, was taken into custody Friday and charged with two counts of manslaughter for the mysterious murders in Delphi. Here are the main things that ALLEGEDLY (no proof guys, just what I received) stood out to me: 1) I got three names, of which, per your instruction, I will not provide here. Kline is being held in jail after being arrested on separate child porn charges in 2020. BA, Journalism, Cal State University Long Beach, 1981. Idle speculation at its finest. Our error rate at the moment is probably under 50% and quite possibly lower, even much lower. Of course, there are trolls saying that the information Ive given is info thats already known. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. How do you know he had a deer kit and how many knives he had? I didnt remove it. We reported them one year before it came out in the media that they were all true. LE has no clue what is going on. He got turned in because two brothers for some reason were saying that he was BG. Only a few seconds of the 43-seconds long recording have not been made public. The autopsy of the other would know if she was a virgin and even if the killer violated her with whatever she would have bled a little so that could have been detected also. So I would definitely hang the jury and let Mr. X walk, and in all probability, BG would be free to walk the streets again. I doubt if its important. No, at least not in this case. Hmm . They simply dont have enough on him to get a conviction is all. They have most recently stated that they want to avoid double jeopardy. It is important to note that you are under no obligation to tell the police anything. That leads me, and others more knowledgeable than me, that there was SOMETHING with the bodies (possibly posed)that local LE thought there could be a serial killer. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. Here's the Update in His Case. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Im seeing in between. Hes a mechanic by trade, but used to drive trucks and works for a local trucking company with a high profile. The pre-trial hearing in this case is to be held in January. The killer contacted Libby on social media using the "catfish" of a young man aged 19. So when you are saying, No way does Lindsay have inside sources or official documents, do you think its possible that a team of 230 sleuths all working together could have come up such things? What I noticed in the article is that in cases of stating and posing bodies, the perpetrator and the victims are, compared to other murders, on average, older. Yes I thought the suspect had been recorded walking on the raailroad tracks on one of the girls phones. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. Maybe. He was right in the middle of all the police and media, and no one suspected him. Kegan Kline cannot be involved either. By the way, whats a legitimate journalist? Whats a illegitimate journalist? Theres no such thing as either. See? She mentions how the search parties on the 13th had a hard time finding the girls because they didnt think the were looking for bodies but alive girls and she says additionally, also they were partially covered. What does that mean? Anyway, even if there was PIV sex, the victim would have died soon after the sex and the tiniest speck of a fetus, the size of a pencil dot on a sheet of paper, along with it. If he is wearing Indiana Packers workboots, this solves one more question. Got it? Good ones and bad ones, perhaps, but theres no such thing as legitimate versus illegitimate. If so, this proves that this crime was planned nearly down to the minute. The Delphi Murders: Four years later Libby & Abby's killer is still out there. 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! She was found in an ivory/white dress. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. The guy that is making those videos about Mr X, and the guy by the name of Derek godsey. One of our team members talked to a detective in Kentucky a couple of years ago who told us about this expunged conviction. Most of these podcasts are silly speculation or talk about POIs who are all ruled out. Ill leave it at that. It's a strange case. [43] Libby's grandmother, Becky, makes a deal with the girls. However, the other three have only peripheral involvement and may have committed no crime! Within a ditch along a country road on her way home from school shortly after her murder. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. If one of the girls was pregnant, was the pregnancy a result of intercourse with Mr X? Yes, a lot of our very early information turned out wrong, but now that we have studied the case much more clearly, our view of the case is getting a lot more accurate as we are able to rule in or out various rumors and hypotheses. Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, is allegedly the man behind a fake social media account that investigators. Anyway, where you at with this case now? Allen "has been consistent" in police interviews over the years, former FBI agent and ABC News contributor Brad Garrett said. Theres a knife that he used to kill the girls. You think Im stupid? That is the exact location whereLibby German, 14, and Abigail Williams, 13, filmed an unidentified man approaching them on the day of their February 2017 deaths. Phallic objects, specifically a log and a doll, placed next and perpendicular to the genitals of the girls to give the impression that they were being sexually penetrated by these objects. We believe that this happened in the first place because a photo exists of a truck being towed from the CPS building around February 14. Some new info here. Oh one more thing. They just accept everyone as long as you say youre straight. Sometimes there are deliberate injuries to the mouth, including bullet wounds, as a sign that someone "talked.". What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. Are you speculating? In fact just based on what I have going on, researching this case is the absolute last thing I should be doing, but its drawing me in, and I cant help it. No Im just a mechanic in Boston Mass. Furthermore, homicide is the most serious thing you can charge anyone with. Via LE Source A, Mr. X s roommate in 2011-2012 in Delphi told LE that BG was absolutely Mr. X. I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. In a blown-up pic of him, you can clearly see that it has the shape of handcuffs. In the years since Libby German and Abby Williams were murdered, there have been no arrests. I am a retired Detective Chief previously responsible for the Criminal Investigation Department and all of the 80 plus detectives within as well as a senior investigative officer with experience of leading murder enquiries. The Monon High Bridge trail attracts hunters, fishers, campers and kids hiking or just taking photos of the popular spot. Amazing work! It is currently unclear what the. This is simply because Ive dared to question if its possible that he was involved in any capacity or if its possible that he made misleading statements. On February 13, 2017, Libby and Abby took a hiking trip at the abandoned Monon High Bridge, in an outing that was only meant to be for a few hours. Do you know why FSG was there at the trails; how long hed been there; how he got there; if he drove, what sort of car he drove and where he parked it. Let me jump in here. Aaron Keller May 17th, 2022, 8:19 pm. How do you join and can you join as a European? They had both been murdered. You said in your blog that Mr. X was friends with Ron Logan. So who is Mr. X? For example, a rape victim being naked from the waist down and legs splayed might invoke shock but the victim was not posed specifically to shock- just left as is. Hello, i live in cedar rapids , ia. Recently moved to a small city nearby, possibly due to the heat of being a suspect in the crime. We would say it is low. But they didnt get to ask him about PB. Maybe he did, maybe he didnt. They think he did it. The voice was a good match, the clothes looked familiar, and the walk was dead on. He states when he got home that night (13th) one of his neighbors had came over to ask if he could search his property, looking for the girls. He is described as a white male aged between 16 and 40 years old, between 5 6 and 5 10 in height and weighing between 180 and 200 pounds. I am going to bet dollars to donuts there will be a person arrested February 13th, 2022. Apparently he planned this abduction to occur at precisely this time, which is shocking. FSG along with others present at the bridge have been investigated as possible lookouts for BG. Because it doesnt matter whether I think hes guilty or not. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. Paul Etter: A 55 year old local man of many interests. Theyve been doing this from the very start, so this is nothing new. Innocent people are hurt and killed in these cases, but theyre not really high profile and we dont have time to mess with this epidemic. He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. The probable cause affidavit did reveal that clothes belonging to the girls were found in a creek south of where their bodies were discovered. Why would we do that? and that he was likely familiar with the Monon High Bridge. A handgun, in order to do ballistics tests on it. The investigators do believe that the suspect either lives or works in Delphi, Ind. The pre-trial hearing in this case is to be held in January. Stabbing of one girl in the neck artery at some point after the above events. One stepson, age 21 with the same first and last names. There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. Allen is a married pharmaceutical technician. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. Evidence in the Delphi, Indiana, double murder case was unsealed by a county court on Tuesday, revealing key new details, including that suspect Richard Allen's gun was linked to the crime scene. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing.. Though she cannot comment on this investigation since its ongoing, she MAY be able to offer clues. Did he eat? He can be heard saying, "Guys, down the hill," in the short video and investigators created two composite sketches based on this evidence. People are saying this is a coincidence, but apparently LE does not believe it is coincidental. 13) Search Shell station footage in between 25 miles from crime scene throughout. That makes no sense anyways, kill 2 little girls because of a "grudge",theoretically speaking. Where his truck was parked was a five minute walk to the crime scene. Didnt he at the time live down the street from Logan? Thats technically true but in all my years of playing the part of a PIO and putting out press releases, Ive never intentionally told a lie. In an Oct. 13, 2022, interview, Allen told police he saw juvenile girls on the trails east of Freedom Bridge and said he went onto the Monon High Bridge, near where the girls were killed. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. I showed a few friends who knew nothing of the case and they didnt see anything either. Easy, they were lying! He had his keys with him, so why didnt he move his truck when they asked him to instead of lying and saying he couldnt because he had lost his keys? Hi Robert, can you tell me if FSG and/or his brother were part of the search parties on either day? I dont know about you, but when I go to a nearby town, I dont generally take my cellphone and throw it in a bunch of weeds for the five hours that I was gone, coming back to my home hours later to retrieve it from the weeds. She has channeled her pain into grief and sadness. Copyright 2023 Distractify. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. The Narcotics detective did not work on the case. Few of the illustrious Delphi Murders Youtubers has touched the real truth about this case as laid out in this website, probably because they are all narcissists who hate each other and hate anyone stealing their thunder. This goes on all the time, however. Their bodies were discovered the next day in a wooded area around half a mile off the trail. There are unconfirmed rumors Mr. Xs truck was towed after his wife never came to bring the car keys and that Mr. Xs truck was never searched by police. I have an official case document here in my hand. Maybe we need to clear him a 243rd time then just to make sure! A sheet with a smiley face on it at the crime scene, possibly hung from a tree. May have worked at Tyson Foods slaughterhouse in Logansport, Indiana and sister facility in Waterloo, Iowa in 2011-2012. He is happy to do so. I realize unsolved would be a magnet for that but wow. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15568704. The 14-year-old also captured a grainy video on her phone of a man dressed in blue jeans, a jacket and a hoodie walking along the abandoned railroad bridge. The shocking new details about the murders that have rocked the community of Delphi, Indiana, for more than five years came to light in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. You say that you dont even have a suspect, and youre waiting on that one tip to come in, but youre worried about double jeopardy? No one knows if they talked to Ron about Mr. X. I doubt it because Ron keeps saying the killer is this Garrett Kirts, and its not him. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. It was all over by 3:30 PM. I believe that came from the leaked DE texts, and I would really like to know if that has ever been confirmed by anyone in LE. A 50-year-old suspect, identified as Richard Allen, has been arrested at the Carroll County Jail in connection with the murders of Abigail Williams and Libby German, whose bodies were found near the Delphi Historic Trail shortly after being reported missing in February . Detectives said that after the photo was taken, a man approached the girls and apparently told them to go down the hill.. Im also sure that its used as a tactic to convince the public that they were completely justified in making whatever decisions they felt required justification. She was emphatic about that. Besides being psycho. Was Mr X aware of the pregnancy and the murder was to hide that fact? White scarf covering the lower half of his face. The girls bodies were discovered on his property - just1,400 from his house - and it was revealed over the summer that his alibi for the day of the murder did not line up. I could be completely off base and change my mind tomorrow. The fact that I believe LE has been busy trying to cover up the mistakes they made early on leads me to believe that they inadvertently helped BG get away with this horrendous crime and continue to do so by withholding almost every piece of information possible from the public, while at the same time begging for that one tip they need to make an arrest. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Today a true-crime podcast released documents that shed new light on the unsolved crime. The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. There was a helicopter/drone photoset going around in a FB group in the last few days (dont remember which group). This March marks the 30 th anniversary of the murder of 21 year-old Penn State student, Dana Bailey. This is getting ridiculous. In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. Please do not share any sources that discuss the origin of the rumor and stick to the topic of the post. Ive never heard about all these details this is crazy. Over the years numerous people have have been put forth as possible suspects in the case. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. Kegan Kline, 27, of Peru, Indiana, was also named as a suspect in the murders. Since Libby and Abby were young, and the perpetrator is between 18 and 40, according to the statistics would that indicate a possible attempt to thwart the investigation? This implies that the girls were returned to the scene later. We believe that those reactions were overblown. The Hanish & Bowen case have revealed this for them (thus the new direction & young BG sketch & ditching of old BG sketch in 2019 a month after Hanish)I bet Hanish was catfished using that Anthony_Shots account toohe mustve been told or overheard info about the Delphi murders & therefore removedBowen removed for either the same thing or fact she knew the truth behind Hanish murder (b/c I definitely am not buying that Kirts is bisexual & choked him out during a weird sexcapade, gimme a break). 4-lane highway. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. On the day of the murders, he was wearing a blue jacket and jeans. How many times has he been cleared? These crimes are often a great big game to these guys, and they often try to insert clever little coincidences into their crimes, probably just to freak people out and make themselves seem diabolically clever, evil geniuses. The suspected pedophile - who is heavy-set and pasty-faced - used an image of a ripped and muscular young man to trick underage girls into speaking to him. Whatever it was that caused her to react in such a way, I just hope she shared with law enforcement. 5) He parked near the cemetery, but not at the cemetery. 3) This man is a *heavy* smoker and a functioning alcoholic. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a9ecdae37f37f9e5f76df75466de7fce" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Aside from the sketches released, authorities have indicated that the killer left behind physical evidence. To be fair, two other men were also searching Rons land that night and they didnt find anything either, so it looks like those girls were pretty hard to miss. Killer May Have 'Moved and Staged' Delphi Murder Victims' Bodies and Done Something to 'Memorialize the Crime Scene': Warrants. This was just the most underhanded, disgusting display of we need a fall guy, and LE should be ashamed of themselves. Its more secure. This has helped me a lot. Im the one who did it. I dont know this man very well, but he wasnt in on this crime. But now we have an excellent regular LE source close to the investigation giving us regular updates, the best LE source weve ever had. Wow, this is some incredible news. Ages approximate. Not sure of the significance here. Much more on that below. These people are from all over the country and have expertise in all sorts of different areas. Important residence periods: Moved to Evansdale, Iowa in 2011-2012 to work at a slaughterhouse possibly aligned with Tyson Foods there. Is Mr X part of any of the local groups working on promoting the trail system? We believe this because this is what we were told. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Are you serious? Leave this poor man alone, for Gods sake. Libbys phone did not record him for 43 seconds. Abby Williams and Libby German were found dead on Feb. 14, 2017. In fact, the rumor is that LE simply does not have enough evidence against Mr. X to take the case to court. That would have been quite a problem. He stayed to guard his truck. We may or may not have from 1-8 more official case documents from this case.
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