https://t.co/rFjZ7dTFUE. If you are not interested you can unsubscribe at any time. Eurosportreports that Kenny expanded on the incident on BBC One today, saying: Someone felt they had right of way and decided that gave them the right to kind of jump on the throttle and drive at us, which was a scary experience. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. Discovery through its international sports unit, it operates two main channels Eurosport 1 and Eurosport 2 across most of its territories, and streams on Discovery+, which superseded Eurosport Player. At least King Kelly is still there despite Harmon's departure. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. 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And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. And then, of course, there are the flat stages and the sprint finishes. And alongside everything going on in his ear and on the screens in front of him, Kirby says the booths themselves can be a sourceof distraction from the job of commentating. CK:Its pretty bleak. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. We met a young boy and young girl who recently lost their mum, and its really sad when you see that side of it. I am very sorry but he is just nowhere near the standards of messrs. Liggett, Boulting, Miller and Hatch. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. Various types of distractions are always ready for a commentator. I think you need to be a specialist to be a cycling commentator, yet he covers several sports on Eurosport. The Vuelta a Espana used to be the worst of the Grand Tours because theyd have transitions day of 250km across a desert. Join Outside+ to get complete access to exclusive content on VeloNews, training plans for road and gravel, and more. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. A close study of the final 20 kilometres follows, picking out key hazardslike pinch points, street furniture and likely attack points, before the repeating the study in the car alongside King Kelly as the pair make their way to the commentary point at the stage finish. No ! Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. But not today in the Vuelta or yesterday, and this is the first time I have heard Kirby commentating. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. Kirby has however found his own distinctive and unique style which has brilliantly worked for him all these years. Some pros think so, plus more tech news from Shimano, Zwift, Le Col, Dahon, Fairlight + more, Pick-up truck driver crashes into group of cyclists, leaving two dead and 11 injured. Carlton Kirby Kirby is the most marmite commentator there is. As well as sports commentary his voiceover work includes corporate videos and feature films as well as radio and television advertising. For god's sake grow up the man's just doing his job some of it good, some of it bad Is it my imagination or has there been more talk about commentators than cycling on here recently? And his constant er, er, erms.. all the time were extremely irritating. There must be so many ex-pro riders out there who would give valuable commentary and insight into the races. Plus security bikes, plus rolling paramedics. There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. Discovery company. We saw that on the Tour of Catalunya - a useless piece of motorcycle protocol. Minutes later, Sean Kelly points out that Padun is 'not getting around the corners well not comfortable whatsoever on the descent'. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. Ive done so much and been so many places that I mostly have all of them embedded in my head. Kirby is a shockingly bad commentator, but Harmon is not much better. Especially on unstable surfaces. 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As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. pic.twitter.com/bcRWeK1p3o, just merder. He spoils everyones enjoyment of the race with his silly so called jokes and rubbish talk. The One Subscription to Fuel All Your Adventures. I speak no language other than English. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. OK. And then, we wait. For over 20 years, be it the Tour de France, Olympic Games, Monte Carlo Rally or Le Mans 24 Hours, his easy-going manner coupled with incisive commentary and a dramatic edge has made him an audience favourite. He has been commentating on the Tour de France since 2009, and his deep knowledge of the race and the riders makes him one of the most respected commentators in the sport. Its a massive operation. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. You can't work commentating on it for as long as he has next to informative ex-pros without some of it getting in through osmosis at the least. The youngsters were congratulated by the force on Twitter, as they helped chase down a thief who had stolen over 300 worth of goods. But there are always other lines to cross, and he just loves collecting these plaudits and the deserved success coming his way is just brilliant. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. Whilst im not Carltons biggest fan (prefer Backstead w Harmon) I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Terms and conditions of use. hatcher - are you Harmon's mum? Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc Please tell your friends: Ive read so many negative comments about Kirby that unlike most online petitions this one could work. And, he is right about it. Eurosport cant get away with this !! if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. I think as well that audiences will be sympathetic, so even if they know were not there, we will be upfront and honest about it. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby presents a weekly guide to everything that's NOT happening in the sport this year, with stories and reflections from his 25 years in the gantry. More often than not they slip into commentary which is at best nationalistic, and at worst xenophobic. You take yourself to the studio, call up your procyclingstats.com, do your research online. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Hosted by Duncan Steer. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. Carlton Kirby As a Post Graduate Broadcast Journalist Carlton's Television career began with the BBC as a News and Sports Reporter. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. Cookies help us deliver our services. Carlton's voice is familiar to fans of Motorsports and Cycling both on British Television and throughout the world. Kelly will probably kill him by the end. This is why he often cracks jokes and laughs heartily. pic.twitter.com/RRu5rosVP4, Jeremy Vine (@theJeremyVine) March 24, 2019, This time it's a driver who doesn't get the concept of taking the lane (and is caught soon after he risks an overtake on the clogged up London street anyway), Yesterday officers were helped by youths on pedal cycles & many other members of public in catching a thief (300 theft) from Bentley Bridge who security were chasing for a while. Shouldnt be that hard to organise with so many people here able to talk eloquently and intelligently for 4 hours. Harmon LOVES cycling, cycling history, and even riders who don't speak English. Once they pass by, they have to repass the peloton to get the shots they want later on. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The pictures were all over the news. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. It easy to forget that before this tour Mark Cavendish, the greatest of all great sprinters, had never beaten Marcel Kittel in a head-to-head. He is thinking of five wins, and is finally allowing himself to believe he is going to reach the all-time record of the Belgian all-rounder Eddy Merckx's record for stage wins of 34. If its one of those days where its going to end in a sprint and you need to cover 240km, then its gonna be a bit of a drag. AndKirby wouldnt have it any other way, even if there are those who dont always appreciate what goes into calling a Tour de France stage. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. Tech, reviews: tech [at] road.cc The man, the myth, the chosen son. Kittel was completely shocked, and has been getting more and more upset as this Tour has gone on. And its only the past year that we even get to see more than the Tour de France. They kept the suspect in view and assisted us in the footchase before he was caught and arrested pic.twitter.com/QcQg7PBcsn, Wednesfield Police (@WednesfieldWMP) March 24, 2019. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. Commentating on cycling is not like snooker or tennis, says Carlton Kirby, a principal commentator for Eurosports cycling coverage, who has worked in the sport since 1996. Anyone but dreary Declan Quigley please! Ill be making notes when Sean Kellys driving, which can be a difficult thing! We have to get him off eurosport. The most interesting people are the race commissars, and talking with them you get a lot of insight into who they are keeping an eye on. The very aspect of commentating that requires filling the gaps spanning hours of no action is the reason. Discovery company. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. And it is at that point, Cav comes out of the shadows to mug him at the line. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. I don't think much does get through to him, I really wish it did. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. If she wins so does everyone else. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. ). All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. It is all clearly not set in stone at the moment, and I hope that I'm not going to have some sharp intake of breath moments on commentary just because bikes are needlessly endangering the lives of cyclists. When we drive to the finish well usually get on the course, because were badged up to do it, and then make notes. He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. 26/8/22: Stage 6 of the Vuelta, Kirby informs us (clearly based on nothing) that Mark Padun is 'a master' at descending in the wet (at that precise moment, Padun is descending very gingerly, taking pretty poor lines). It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. After a long journeyback to the hotel, often punctuated by Kelly taking media calls especially on the stages he himself would have thrived on during his career its then a debrief over dinner and back to bed for a seven-hour sleep and restarting the process again the next day. Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you The walls do move when they pile in too. And then, you hang a look at anyone who is there to find out if theyre going to listen to you. What you are talking about is a place in history. You have got to be kidding! And we have managed to cover his view on it. I think this is what is powering Marks mind at the moment. Some of which have been admitted, some of which weren't. In my ear I have a producer telling me when we have interviews, drop-in features, ad breaks and cue points.. This is the video I showed Trinity School in Lewisham this morning. I never say when Im on-site vs. at the race. That should have been alarm bells for everyone. When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. Helen Blackman (@HelenBlackman) March 24, 2019. I could get 20 minutes of commentary out of dinner last night. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. So, our information can be slightly second-hand. I would rather have the sound off than listen to his pathetic attempts to link words and phrases together rather than comment on the racing (as opposed to being able to identify riders) about which he knows precious little. Hence, talking on something is difficult without matter. @DeGendtThomas, guanyador de la primera etapa de la #VoltaCatalunya 2019. The commentary line-up will include regular voices Rob Hatch and Carlton Kirby, who will also joined by cycling legend Sean Kelly at all three major races. I like Carlton too, not as much as Harmon, granted, but I've given up on him coming back. For mine, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. I heard him doing weightlifting once. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. Partly, of course, that's his job - but if you give it out, you have to take it. 14 Aug 2020. He inspires such devotion that he has his own fan club, yet also is on the receiving end of a petition to get him sacked. Essentially, there needs to be some sort of schooling or protocol coming from the International Cycling Union that has a proficiency test for these guys. Valverde gets it very, very wrong!" exclaimed . Apologies it's in super annoying meme form (we couldn't find the originalsource) but this is too good not too share! Plus the the week's top tech news, in: Flying Tom Pidcock wins Strade Bianche, in: Cyclists call on council to reconsider unsafe diversion, in: Call for Scottish safety portal that would "deliver justice", in: Campaigners: Remove pedestrian vs cyclist conflict, in: Highway Code changes haven't helped cyclists, Near Miss of the Day 853: Driver of lorry urging cyclists to Please take extra care near this vehicle fined for close pass (includes swearing), Continental unveils the "strongest" and "fastest" ever Grand Prix 5000 tyre models, Brompton boss frustrated to be fighting "war of attrition" against rip-off rivals, Remove conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, urge campaigners in wake of manslaughter case, Have bike tech wars turned cycling into Formula 1? To my mind, the motorised vehicles are getting far too close, a point I continue to pick up on commentary. You could hear a pin drop. Also, Kirby criticises riders in almost every race. It's garnering quite a few sarcastic responses on Twitter Yep, I regularly cycle to MacDonalds, get a load of food, then cycle to the off license, get some beer, and then cycle to a lay by or car park and spread it around the place. You also get a guy filming on the one side of a cyclist, who is then blocking the rider from turning at the right angle into a corner because a motorbike is blocking him. Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. 35m is 100ft. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. Set the scene for us. Went for a bike ride earlier today. Its a case of trying to keep everybody amused. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. Coverage includes enhanced production with access to helicopter, on-board and superslomo cameras. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. Proper all rounder. Astonishingly though, a single stage of the Tour de France lasts for about more than six hours. During a sprint stage, every turn is important, and sometimes Ill walk the final approach with [commentator] Sean Kelly, and there will be no need to even take notes, because hell just say, Oh, this will be shit. You can read an off-camber turn when youre standing on it, and see the attack points when youre going up and down a mountain. (Clarke is a very good rider, but there is nothing to suggest he SHOULD have won the 2016 M-SR. Watch the race.). Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021; carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021. Not that itsa straightforward drive to the finish at the Tour, as Kirby explains. The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. And within the second group, he sprints hard, coming 13th overall. Brentford today angry guy in grey car can't see why he should wait till it's safe to overtake hoots horn, shouts abuse and 100 yards later I'm in front again anyway. Over 3,200 worth of amazing prizes from Pacenti Cycle Design and Saint Piran, including some stunning carbon wheels! Ive fallen off the Galibier. (PS If there's anything here about donating, that's the website host - nothing to do with this petition - there is nothing to donate to. Like this site? They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. Mark Cavendish crossed the line first, and said Kittel came up to slap him in the back. and apologises to those who don't. 00:04:00, 29/05/2020 at 08:52 Related From wrestling with sound walls, coping with dropped audio, working with Sean Kelly and deciphering the Kirby CODEC, we caught up with Kirby midway through the raceto getan insight into life on Tour as a commentator. Best known for his work on Eurosport, his voice has also appeared on BBC, ITV, Channel 4, Motors TV, Cycling TV, Speed Channel USA, ABC Australia, SABC South Africa, Canal Plus France, Canal France International and more. "Beware everybody, he is well and truly back!" yelled Carlton Kirby on Eurosport commentary. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. All rights reserved. There is no discussion or debate, just chatter, articles, and just that. It is really sad when you see the consequences of that. Its windowless. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. VN:So, what really is gained by being on-site? VN:Whats it like calling a race from back home at the studio? We dont want this man commentating. Baseless. Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. And this sort of meaningless, demented jabber is not at all unusual I could have chosen many examples just from today. It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? Talk about what you know. I agree listening to the mans over stressed enthusiasm really gets on my nerves. It means sometimes were not actually commentating from the finish line because the Tour de France is so huge theres about 8,000 people attached to the Tour. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirbys voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosports racecoverage.
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